Wednesday, November 14, 2007

 

Ending Impeachment Myths IX -- "He'll just get pardoned, anyway."

The source of this myth isn't exactly clear to me, but I've seen it on a regular basis. Fortunately, it is extremely simple to dispel, because impeachment convictions are specifically exempted from the pardon power by the Constitution.

Check it yourself. Article 2 Section 2 states:

"The President ... shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

As you can see, the Founding Fathers were thinking ahead.

There are some recent cases in history that may have contributed to the birth of this misconception. Among them:

It is important to reiterate that impeachment does not work like a criminal case. There is no chance of an appeal. There is no punishment other than immediate removal from office and the imposition of a ban on holding government office in the future.

Does this mean that if H Res 333 is successful, Cheney is immune from prosecution? Not at all. It means that he would be stripped of office, stripped of the dubious "executive privilege" defense, and be able to face criminal charges in a court of law as a private citizen.

While it is possible that the President would try to issue a "pre-emptive pardon" (as in the Nixon case), this could be challenged. Arguably, honorable Republicans would oppose this move in order to prevent further destruction of their party's public image.


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Latest Polls on Impeachment


Way back at the start of the "Ending Impeachment Myths" series, in which much of the data available six months ago is collected, I noted:

It seems reasonable to assume that support for impeachment has increased since last October, but it will take more scientific polling to confirm this. The question is: Who will be brave enough to find out?

In the wake of Dennis Kucinich's move to bypass Pelosi's "off the table" policy on the House floor, recent polls by Rasmussen Reports and the American Research Group have finally shed some new light on what Americans are thinking.

The ARG poll shows a stunning indictment by the public:
In addition, the Rasmussen poll shows more people believe that Cheney violated his oath of office than believe he did not. (The numbers are close, but not within the margin of error.)

However, there is less agreement concerning opinion on what should be done about the situation:
Public interest in the issue is large, but not overwhelming. Rasmussen data shows that:

Rasmussen also showed that the public is skeptical that impeachment of Cheney will occur, with 75% calling it "not very likely" or "not at all likely". Given the stance of the Democratic leadership on this issue, this result is not surprising.

Perhaps most surprising, the Rasmussen poll found that respondents asked "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for a candidate who actively works to have Vice-President Cheney impeached?" had a greater chance of saying "less likely" (36%) than "more likely" (25%). It is possible that the wording here had some effect on the end results, if some respondents interpreted the question as being about their likelihood of voting for Kucinich -- the only candidate visibly associated with the matter in the news.

Both polls were taken in the days immediately following Kucinich's introduction of H Res 799, with the ARG poll coming after the Rasmussen survey. Do the differences in support for a Cheney impeachment reflect rapidly-changing opinion, or just differences in methodology?

Back in July (immediately following the commutation of Scooter Libby's sentence), a groundbreaking ARG poll found that 54% of the public favored "beginning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney". Has the overall trend of support for impeachment gone down?

Maybe, and maybe not. The new ARG data finds that 27% of the public believes Cheney abused his power, but that either that the abuse is not serious enough to warrant impeachment or that impeachment should not happen even though the abuse warrants it. It is my firm belief that the start of hearings would both increase the level of public interest and start changing the minds of some of that 27%.

I look forward to more data.

Thursday, November 08, 2007

 

Kucinich Gambit Shows Who's Who

The re-introduction of articles of impeachment against Vice President Cheney on Tuesday didn't accomplish anything new... yet. Although the use of the "question of privilege" rules to introduce the resolution (H Res 799) made sure that it would receive at least an hour's worth of attention on the House floor, the end result was that the resolution was referred to the Judiciary Committee, where its twin brother, H Res 333, has been languishing for over six months.

The net effect on overall progress towards impeachment remains to be seen -- at least one member of the House Judiciary Committee who previously had little to say about the matter (Robert Wexler, whose chief claim to fame is saying "cocaine is fun" on the
Colbert Report as a joke) has now openly called for hearings to begin.

There are, however, two things that the legislative upheaval most certainly accomplished:

  1. The test has shown the limits of Pelosi's "off the table" policy regarding impeachment. Any member of Congress can interrupt normal House business as often as desired to ensure that any evidence they want to present at least makes it out on C-SPAN (with postings on YouTube sure to follow).

  2. It has definitively revealed the fault line between real Democrats (i.e. the ones that adhere to the same values that people think of when they think of an "unnamed Democrat" in a theoretical matchup in poll questions) and the pseudo-Democrats (i.e. the ones that seem to hold power in the party and that never do as well as the unnamed Democrat in those polls since they don't adhere to those values).
Following is a chart that shows the position of "people of interest" on the impeachment question right now. (I apologize for it being tiny. Blogger keeps shrinking it.)




Each member of Congress is labelled as follows:


Now, each representative's individual action may not mean anything, but I think the pattern as a whole is telling. There are four distinct groups.

Both Robert Brady (PA) and David Payne (NJ) have signed on as co-sponsors of H Res 333, but they didn't vote in either of the motions on Tuesday. I am not sure what this means -- either they were absent when the votes were taken or they abstained. I hope it's the former.

[Note: I threw in Ron Paul just because I found his vote to table surprising. I very much respect Mr. Paul's integrity and would be interested to see his reasoning on the matter.]

[UPDATE: It seems that Ron Paul clarified his intent on his vote to table. His reasoning is legitimate, and his support for hearings is clear. Hopefully, this means we'll see him bring more attention to this issue.]

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